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| Topic Started: Jan 21 2010, 10:53 PM (775 Views) | |
| daks | Jan 21 2010, 10:53 PM Post #1 |
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hi all, just noticed my dogs tail is not right, well i dont think it is?? anyone got any ideas if what im about to explain is normal or am i just mega paranoid?? ok i watched him and my other black dog running around like idiots over the fields then my black pup grabbed trix in full flight by the tail and floored him, now when he walks his tail used to curl up at the end it just how can i explain??? ok if you take your first finger on any hand and bend it in the middle, not fuly down but between extended and bent thats how its looking from the side view when you point your hand with bent finger towards the floor...... if that makes sense and your still with me and not rolling about laffing!! i have checked the vertabrae that runs from the start of the tail down to the tip and everything feels fine he doesnt yelp or anything infact he just grabs his tail and starts mauling it lol stupid dog!! ive tried taking a pic but you know how it is, he just does everything but stand still for me! i bet im just being paranoid again lol but he was in pain when pulled over in the field cheers in advance...gary :) |
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| Saluqihounds | Jan 22 2010, 08:19 AM Post #2 |
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I'm not sure I am still with you sorry mate. :HMMMMM: What are you saying? That his tail is now kinked rather curved or just more abruptly curved or am I total off what you are saying?? :blink: |
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| daks | Jan 22 2010, 12:13 PM Post #3 |
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yeah something like that about 1/4 of the way from the base its kinked to the right as you look at it!! ive got pics but its pretty crap..... Posted Image Posted Image |
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| Saluqihounds | Jan 22 2010, 05:59 PM Post #4 |
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There certainly looks to be something going on there, perhaps some ligament damage? I had a Labrador a good few years ago now and his tail went total limp for a few days once, it just hung there but before we went to the vet his tail returned to normal. I have no idea what caused it although his tail did curve to one side from when first got him at 9 months old. In as many years of keeping dogs I've never had a dog grab another by the tail, seem a strange thing for a dog to go for. What happens with his tail when he does a number 2? |
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| DeviodOvTalent | Jan 22 2010, 07:30 PM Post #5 |
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The Lab thing is called 'cold tail,' it's something different. This looks like a 'broken tail.' Does the dog still have feeling in the lower portion of the tail? Give the end of the tail a good hard pinch with your fingernails, if the dog reacts, there's still feeling. If there's still feeling, I wouldn't worry about it too much, the strain, sprain or break will heal. There will likely be a bump at that point in the tail. If there's no feeling, or reduced feeling, you'll need to get the dog to a vet. Dogs who lose the feeling in the broken half of the tail will often chew on it and damage it severely, so it may need to be amputated. It is also possible for a broken tail to have a very sharp kink or bend, these dogs should be taken to the vet to have the dislocated vertebrae put back into place. A small, shallow angle bend with a dog that shows no discomfort, I generally don't bother. One of my halfghans has had her tail broken twice; there's a slight bump there, but not loss of function. |
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| Paul | Jan 22 2010, 11:05 PM Post #6 |
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Broken tail is a possibility, you need to check as Devoid suggests. However, on first looking I was wondering if it is as simple as an issue with his anal glands. Get him to the vets for a check up Joanna |
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| daks | Jan 23 2010, 12:24 AM Post #7 |
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cheers guys for the replies, ok i have squeezed his tail he looked at me like im a div and then yelped lol so i grabbed it where it kinks and rotated it left to right and up and down he made no noise at all just sniffed my hand!!! i again rubbed my hand over his tail grabbing and pressing every vertabra again he was fine i might just get him to the vet as a precaution i am thinking that it might be time for my black pup to get sold as he is really starting to hurt the puppy all the time even though the pup winds him up a lot i just wish he would turn on the black one and give him what for least he might leave him alone!!! so annoying....... saluqi i have no idea what happens to his tail when he poo's il have a look tommorrow and let you know lol :) |
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| Saluqihounds | Jan 23 2010, 10:30 AM Post #8 |
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Thanks devoid, I'll look into the Cold Tail thing even though Podge RIP is long gone now.
I know it's a strange thing to ask , I just wondered how the tail behaves when he goes for a poop as it would give an indication of control, as we all know the tail is typically held straight out for clearance when the go, does the kink become more pronounced or less so or stay the same. I just thought it might be the one time you would get a clear indication of what movement control he still as. Hopefully it is just sprain or at worst slight break and all will be well in a few weeks. Your black dog certainly sounds like he needs to tone his antics dog a wee bit, I'm sure in time Trix will be more than a capable of standing up to him. Whats the breeding of the black dog collie cross by any chance? I could well see Collie bred dogs taken cheap shots like that having grown up with Collies. |
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| daks | Jan 23 2010, 10:50 AM Post #9 |
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saluqi, the black dog is a saluki whippet greyhound 11 months old, he will grab hold of anywhere to pull him over he's a little swine, as the snow has nearly gone now i will be taking him out lamping now so hopefully he wont feel the need to pull trix over anymore as i intend to knacker him out after the rabbits, if he does still persist in hurting trix il try the elecy collar again if that fails he's sold ive had enough of my little man being bullied about by that black one we'l see :) oh and on the poo front, his tail "kink" is a bit more pronounced when he goes but it still lifts out the way il take a pic for you if you want :lol1: |
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| Saluqihounds | Jan 23 2010, 01:06 PM Post #10 |
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So from the fact that the kink is even more pronounced we can assume the from the point of the kink the tail is hanging limp? Perhaps that is all your black dog needs, some work to take that edge from him. I remember when the foot and mouth restrictions were in place a number of years ago I had no end of in fighting in my pack due simply to too much pent up energy. |
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| DeviodOvTalent | Jan 23 2010, 11:53 PM Post #11 |
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This link has a picture: http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/coldtail.html Better explanation in the links at the bottom. |
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| Saluqihounds | Jan 24 2010, 11:09 AM Post #12 |
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That fits exactly with what happened with my Lab, he was very much overworked at the time it happened despite having a large team of dogs, some would in inevitably go lame and others would take the slack and we were working 6 day weeks. At least he retired fairly from this excessive work load. |
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| daks | Jan 25 2010, 07:12 PM Post #13 |
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update so far, was checking his tail again today as you do!! feeling the vertabrae down and about 5th from the end is swollen now?? i felt it and it seemed to click through my fingers if that makes any sense at all?? it was like when you grab the micro chip under the skin and move it, i got my o/h to hold him and give him some meat i took hold of the tip and barbaric as it sounds gave it a tug to try and relocate it oh my god did he howl!!!! i sat cuddling him for a few secs and he shut up poor thing i feel awful so have spoilt him with ham lol im gunna have to go see the vet see what they say has anyone got any suggestions of what else to try before i go?? thanks again in advance...gary :) |
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| Kare | Jan 26 2010, 12:24 AM Post #14 |
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I think just leave it alone until the vet sees it- if doing things to it hurts him then best to just wait. As you don't know what's wrong with it I'd be wary of trying to do anything yourself, you don't want it damage it more. Poor boy, give him a piece of ham from me ;) |
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| daks | Jan 26 2010, 10:59 AM Post #15 |
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i only tried doing what i have seen and helped do with lurchers as i know when a lurcher dislocates its tail you give a sharp pull they yelp and are generally fine afterwards, same when they knock there toes out and i have done that many many times but unfortunatly it hasnt worked and am phoneing the vet in oh about 20 secs lol he got a full pack of ham the greedy git ,cheers :) |
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